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		<title>By: piedmonthudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>piedmonthudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;I have to go to that damn msn to find the missed parts.&quot;

Are you referring to the link to Seeking Alpha to read the entire article?  I have done that because the graphics available through the wordpress format is limited and graphical data is displayed in the Seeking Alpha article that can not be displayed in wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;I have to go to that damn msn to find the missed parts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you referring to the link to Seeking Alpha to read the entire article?  I have done that because the graphics available through the wordpress format is limited and graphical data is displayed in the Seeking Alpha article that can not be displayed in wordpress.</p>
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		<title>By: Heartburn Home Remedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heartburn Home Remedy</dc:creator>
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		<description>If you ever want to hear a reader&#039;s feedback :) , I rate this post for 4/5. Decent info, but I   have to go to that damn msn to find the missed parts. Thank you, anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ever want to hear a reader&#8217;s feedback <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  , I rate this post for 4/5. Decent info, but I   have to go to that damn msn to find the missed parts. Thank you, anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Gilmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Gilmartin</dc:creator>
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		<description>John, I wrote the commentary below in response to something you posted on SA. 
Subsequently I found this-( http://www.stwr.org/global-financial-crisis/sold-out-how-wall-street-and-washington-caused-financial-meltdown.html#executive-summary) 

John, I greatly enjoy your commentary on SA (more than many of the articles!). Last fall I had the opportunity to hear Leon Panetta speak (before he became CIA Director). Something he said during the speech really stuck with me- &quot;When leaders continually fail to make difficult decisions- that require sacrifice and compromise- then all we end up doing is managing from one crisis to the next.&quot; I think you are correct to view our current financial crisis and all the dominoes that lead to it (deregulation, low rates, excess leverage etc.) as symptoms of a larger problem. Analysis along these lines got me thinking about longstanding fundamental challenges such as- energy policy, entitlements, current account deficit, Military/ Industrial Complex... do these point to a failure of leadership a` la Panetta? I wonder if the failure to address these is attributable to one thing- the intersection of money (influence) and politics (leadership)? Would public financing of elections give us more &quot;honest brokers&quot; in Washington, more capable of &quot;making difficult decisions- that require sacrifice and compromise&quot; and have helped us to avoid the (far more expensive) &quot;public financing&quot; of the current crisis?


On Mar 16 01:40 PM John Lounsbury wrote:

&gt; Prof. Wolff - - -
&gt;
&gt; I watch for your posts with anticipation. I find them filled with
&gt; thought provoking stateements.
&gt;
&gt; Here are five statements I highlighted:
&gt;
&gt; 1. &quot;Beyond calls for vengeance and a sudden interest in blaming banks,
&gt; the real lessons of the last decades sit and wait to be discovered.&quot;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 2. &quot;Transferring bad assets and blame has been the order of the American
&gt; and global day. This is a serious mistake.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; 3. &quot;...this is a global, structural failure. Nationalizing now makes
&gt; sense only to save vital firms, sectors and jobs.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; 4. &quot;Saving vital social function, jobs and political stability is
&gt; almost always sage.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; 5. &quot;Games of toxic asset hot potato, firm to state, don’t transform
&gt; fundamental value. This game is a recipe for drawn out crisis and
&gt; public anger. Strategic receivership and regulatory reform are pressing
&gt; essentials. Exchanging blind faith in markets for blind faith in
&gt; government policy is mad and it is off.&quot;
&gt;
&gt; I want to expand on statement #1, which is very fundamental. So
&gt; many authors and commenters fail to recognize that we still have
&gt; so much to learn about the causes of our current crisis. We (I include
&gt; myself) are still confusing causes and symptoms of the financial
&gt; collapse. Let me list some points of confusion:
&gt;
&gt; A. &quot;Toxic&quot; assets are a symptoms, not a causes.
&gt; B. Mark-to-market failures are symptoms, not causes.
&gt; C. Outrageous compensation packages for in failing concerns are
&gt; symptoms, not causes.
&gt; D. &quot;Too Big to Fail&quot; is a symptom, not a cause.
&gt; E. Lack of regulation is a symptom, not a cause.
&gt; F. High debt burdens (private and government) are symptoms, not
&gt; causes.
&gt; G. Financial system structure is a cause.
&gt;
&gt; Steve Waldman has a good Seeking Alpha article (March 15) discussing
&gt; financial system structure. seekingalpha.com/artic...
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Once we can focus on causes and get them defined from several perspectives,
&gt; we will start to define a box. Only then can we start to think outside
&gt; the box and debate real long-term solutions instead of band-aides.
&gt; So far everything on the table is a band-aide.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I wrote the commentary below in response to something you posted on SA.<br />
Subsequently I found this-( <a href="http://www.stwr.org/global-financial-crisis/sold-out-how-wall-street-and-washington-caused-financial-meltdown.html#executive-summary)" rel="nofollow">http://www.stwr.org/global-financial-crisis/sold-out-how-wall-street-and-washington-caused-financial-meltdown.html#executive-summary)</a> </p>
<p>John, I greatly enjoy your commentary on SA (more than many of the articles!). Last fall I had the opportunity to hear Leon Panetta speak (before he became CIA Director). Something he said during the speech really stuck with me- &#8220;When leaders continually fail to make difficult decisions- that require sacrifice and compromise- then all we end up doing is managing from one crisis to the next.&#8221; I think you are correct to view our current financial crisis and all the dominoes that lead to it (deregulation, low rates, excess leverage etc.) as symptoms of a larger problem. Analysis along these lines got me thinking about longstanding fundamental challenges such as- energy policy, entitlements, current account deficit, Military/ Industrial Complex&#8230; do these point to a failure of leadership a` la Panetta? I wonder if the failure to address these is attributable to one thing- the intersection of money (influence) and politics (leadership)? Would public financing of elections give us more &#8220;honest brokers&#8221; in Washington, more capable of &#8220;making difficult decisions- that require sacrifice and compromise&#8221; and have helped us to avoid the (far more expensive) &#8220;public financing&#8221; of the current crisis?</p>
<p>On Mar 16 01:40 PM John Lounsbury wrote:</p>
<p>&gt; Prof. Wolff &#8211; - -<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I watch for your posts with anticipation. I find them filled with<br />
&gt; thought provoking stateements.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Here are five statements I highlighted:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 1. &#8220;Beyond calls for vengeance and a sudden interest in blaming banks,<br />
&gt; the real lessons of the last decades sit and wait to be discovered.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 2. &#8220;Transferring bad assets and blame has been the order of the American<br />
&gt; and global day. This is a serious mistake.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 3. &#8220;&#8230;this is a global, structural failure. Nationalizing now makes<br />
&gt; sense only to save vital firms, sectors and jobs.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 4. &#8220;Saving vital social function, jobs and political stability is<br />
&gt; almost always sage.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 5. &#8220;Games of toxic asset hot potato, firm to state, don’t transform<br />
&gt; fundamental value. This game is a recipe for drawn out crisis and<br />
&gt; public anger. Strategic receivership and regulatory reform are pressing<br />
&gt; essentials. Exchanging blind faith in markets for blind faith in<br />
&gt; government policy is mad and it is off.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I want to expand on statement #1, which is very fundamental. So<br />
&gt; many authors and commenters fail to recognize that we still have<br />
&gt; so much to learn about the causes of our current crisis. We (I include<br />
&gt; myself) are still confusing causes and symptoms of the financial<br />
&gt; collapse. Let me list some points of confusion:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; A. &#8220;Toxic&#8221; assets are a symptoms, not a causes.<br />
&gt; B. Mark-to-market failures are symptoms, not causes.<br />
&gt; C. Outrageous compensation packages for in failing concerns are<br />
&gt; symptoms, not causes.<br />
&gt; D. &#8220;Too Big to Fail&#8221; is a symptom, not a cause.<br />
&gt; E. Lack of regulation is a symptom, not a cause.<br />
&gt; F. High debt burdens (private and government) are symptoms, not<br />
&gt; causes.<br />
&gt; G. Financial system structure is a cause.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Steve Waldman has a good Seeking Alpha article (March 15) discussing<br />
&gt; financial system structure. seekingalpha.com/artic&#8230;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Once we can focus on causes and get them defined from several perspectives,<br />
&gt; we will start to define a box. Only then can we start to think outside<br />
&gt; the box and debate real long-term solutions instead of band-aides.<br />
&gt; So far everything on the table is a band-aide.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;</p>
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